My first job in IT was at AOL tech support and we could rattle off AT modem strings from memory :)
radicalriddler 8 hours ago [-]
Spaces really is gonna bring all the features that HN is critical about AT platforms like Tangled.
Private repos are now on the horizon. Huzzah!
ternaryoperator 9 hours ago [-]
You’ll get more traction, by stating way up top what AT is and who should care about it.
CharlesW 8 hours ago [-]
Do you know of something better than the first link in TFA?
sltkr 8 hours ago [-]
You shouldn't have to click away from a blog post to understand what the blog post is about. It should start with a clear self-contained introduction.
atproto.com contains a succinct discription:
> Atproto is a big-world open social protocol. Users publish JSON records into repositories. The changestreams of those records then sync across the network to drive applications.
Still a bit abstract, but OK. Personally I would include that AT protocol stands for Authenticated Transfer Protocol and that it is the protocol powering Bluesky.
SV_BubbleTime 9 hours ago [-]
[flagged]
smasher164 7 hours ago [-]
One thing I'm wondering is how ATproto can be integrated with voice/video chat. Would you combine it with Matrix, XMPP, or some custom protocol?
Arathorn 5 hours ago [-]
One trick we've been playing with on the Matrix side is figuring out how to tunnel encrypted Matrix over other transports - so you could absolutely use it, layered on top of ATproto spaces, as a way to get E2EE DMLS metadata-protected realtime voice/video/chat but tied to ATproto DIDs and permissions. We're in the final stages of (at last) finalising MatrixRTC, the E2EE group voip stuff in Matrix, which would pair nicely with this.
The "portable Matrix" idea is currently nicknamed Tachyon, and is earlier stage at this point, although I did a Matrix Live about it a few months back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc7yfec3iIQ
Funny how this rhymes with something I wrote in 2011[1][2]: a "universal spreadsheet" where people share not just data but the transformations over it. The pieces are more real now: you can actually free your data from closed services (e.g. Instagram), orchestrate it on something like ATProto, and LLMs make a great new kind of "function" for the system.
Most people right now do not want their social media data in world/anonymous-read mode nor want Ai accessing it and doing things with it.
maxrev17 8 hours ago [-]
Too late for that
verdverm 8 hours ago [-]
There's always the future. I stopped using ATProto after the revelations that they hid their VC raise from the community for almost a year (and some other things, straw eventually breaks a camel's back) - and almost all social media, which is a (mild) trend aiui.
Setting aside contemporary political dynamics, there is also the possibility for robust data rights laws that can change the game.
wslh 8 hours ago [-]
Nothing about this requires world-readable data, privacy can be its own layer. FriendFeed[1] did this well back in the day: it aggregated your feeds and let you control who saw each one.
I agree, that's just not where ATProtocol is (currently only available in world/anonymous-read mode). Personally, I find the permission proposal rather lacking (ACL vs the advancements / learning since) and user requested features will require building auth enhancements at the app level, thereby creating a form of centralization.
wslh 8 hours ago [-]
> thereby creating a form of centralization.
Fair point on app-level auth, still far less centralized than the status quo, where the data, the permissions, and every function on top all belong to one company.
verdverm 6 hours ago [-]
better, but works against one of the core ethos in AT
It's been a few years, but it's something like
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49567961
ATZ
AT&F
ATDT5551234
Private repos are now on the horizon. Huzzah!
atproto.com contains a succinct discription:
> Atproto is a big-world open social protocol. Users publish JSON records into repositories. The changestreams of those records then sync across the network to drive applications.
Still a bit abstract, but OK. Personally I would include that AT protocol stands for Authenticated Transfer Protocol and that it is the protocol powering Bluesky.
The "portable Matrix" idea is currently nicknamed Tachyon, and is earlier stage at this point, although I did a Matrix Live about it a few months back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc7yfec3iIQ
[1] https://blog.databigbang.com/ideas-egont-a-web-orchestration...
[2] https://blog.databigbang.com/egont-part-ii/
Setting aside contemporary political dynamics, there is also the possibility for robust data rights laws that can change the game.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FriendFeed
Fair point on app-level auth, still far less centralized than the status quo, where the data, the permissions, and every function on top all belong to one company.
ATDT&L0&M0